now that's the big give in the negotiation. it's not, all right, let's all chip in and buy a getting for the party. it's buy me a keg and i won't burn your [bleeped] house down. now, why would obama and the democrats get the impression that that's not really a give? >> nobody is talking about not raising the debt ceiling. i haven't heard that discussed by anybody, not in the congress. yeah, nobody is talking about doing that. >> jon: [whispering] the leader of the house of representatives. see, the leader of the senate republicans stated on sunday that of course they're going to raise the debt ceiling. now, why would the republicans get the impression that they can play silly politics with something like our credit rating? because in 2006 the president and freshman senator voted against raising the debt ceiling. and why did he do that? >> that was just an example of a new senator, you know, making what is a political vote as opposed to doing what was important for the country, and i'm the first one to acknowledge it. >> jon: he